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History of Toxteth

Toxteth has a very long history of its own. Entering history as two manors, the area became a hunting forest, and a Royal Park. For almost 400 years this prevented the area from changing or developing to any great extent, and the amount of agriculture that was allowed in the forest was very small.

In the 17th century, however, Toxteth’s park status was removed, and first farmers, then industrialists, moved in to take advantage of the newly available land. With industry came residential areas, and soon Toxteth was filling with the terraces it is still largely known for today. Many of these terraces were unfit for habitation, and slum clearance began before the 19th century was over. In the late 20th century, more clearances took place, and this area of land next to the Mersey began to enter a new age of redevelopment, although this was not also without its critics.

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Origins of the name

Stochestede, Dom. Bk.; Tokestat, 1207; Toxstake, 1228; Tokstad, 1257; Toxstath, 1297; Toxsteth, 1447. (VCH Lancs, III)

May be Old English: Stochestede (in the Domesday Book) means the stockaded place.

Alternative explanations claim the word to be a derivation of Toki’s Staith, meaning the landing place of a man named Toki. This version of the definition is less favoured than the other, however.

The Landscape of Toxteth Park

The landscape of Toxteth is undulating, rising to a peak at the north east, and there are three miles of waterfront. Toxteth lies to the south of Liverpool city centre, and before the Pool was filled in for the Old Dock travellers had to cross the Townsend Bridge, across the Moss Lake Brook, and past the Fall Well to get to the Park.

Map of Toxteth Park showing relation to Liverpool, from Greenwood's map of 1818

Toxteth Park in relation to Liverpool, from Greenwood's map of 1818

The flat areas between Parliament Street and Brownlow Hill are all that remains of the Moss Lake. The overflow from this lake, which powered a mill in the area, fed into a stream that flowed into the old Pool.

An important landmark in the area was the stream which flowed from the north east, divided into two and flowed into the Mersey in the form of the Dingle, at an inlet called Knott’s Hole, and the Otterspool, or Oskelbrook, a short distance further south.

Historically, the boundary of Toxteth Park ran from Queen’s Dock on the Mersey, down Parliament and Upper Parliament Streets, across the junction with Smithdown Road and Lodge Lane to Penny Lane, then Queen’s Drive and Aigburth Vale, before coming back to the Mersey at Otterspool.

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Otterspool

Map of Knott's Hole, from the 1908 Ordnance Survey map

Knott's Hole on the 1908 OS map

Known as Osklebrok during the reign of King John, the Otterspool springs in Wavertree, and actually consists of two brooks. Otterspool was once quite a violent stream, falling 35 metres (120 feet) in just over 1km (1100 yards) many years ago. It was widened in the 19th Century for the lakes in Greenbank and Sefton Parks, and now runs under Aigburth Road at Vale and can be seen at gates of Otterspool Park.

Otterspool promenade was opened in 1950 using 30 million tonnes of rubbish and spoil from the Queensway Tunnel excavations. It was extended in 1984 with the 250 acre Garden Festival site, and is now part of the Sustrans cycle route.

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Dingle

The Dingle, once known as Dickenson’s Dingle, was a stream which flowed through St Michael’s Hamlet, and the area nearby keeps the name of the old stream.

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The Prehistoric and Roman Eras

Prehistory

As with the majority of Merseyside, very little is known of the Toxteth area before the Medieval period.

The Calder Stones are the oldest relics of human activity, and once formed a Neolithic burial mound in the vicinity of Calderstones Park, in the nearby township of Allerton. Another possible prehistoric monument is the Robin Hood Stone. Although its mythical connections are clear, this may be a standing stone, possibly existing in isolation or once part of the prehistoric landscape also occupied by the Calder Stones.

The Roman Occupation

The remains of a Roman road were uncovered in the 19th century near St Mary’s in Grassendale, with the route also picked up close to the river in Otterspool some time later. However, very little Roman activity is known from the area west of the road running from Chester up through Warrington and towards Carlisle. The discovery of a small number of Roman coins attests to contact between Roman and local people, but more than that we cannot say.

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The Medieval Period

The Early Medieval Period (Domesday Book)

By the time of the 10th Century AD, the township of Toxteth was divided into two manors, owned by the Saxon thegnes Bernulf and Stainulf. Toxteth was recorded in Domesday as just one of a handful of coastal settlements on the banks of the Mersey, along with the manor of Smithdown (Smeedon) inland, and Garston (Gerstun) to the south. The area was part of the Hundred of West Derby, given to Roger of Poictou by William the Conqueror for his loyalty in the invasion of 1066.

King John, increasing his holdings in the area after founding the borough of Liverpool, decided to take Toxteth back into Crown hands, and by 1212 we find that Richard, son of Thurstan, had been given Thingwall in an exchange with the King, who took Toxteth and incorporated it into his hunting forest, alongside Croxteth and Simonswood. It was John who enlarged Toxteth by adding Smithdown manor to it.

The Later Medieval Period (14th Century)

By the 14th century the park was fenced around as a Royal Park. The Park had two lodges – Upper and Lower – the first of which sat at what is now the junction between Sefton Park Road and Ullet Road (the entrance to Sefton Park). The Lower Lodge may have survived, in small pieces, near Jericho Farm, Fulwood Park, into the 20th century, and may have stood on the site of Otterspool Station.

The main entrance way to the park from the north, and Liverpool, was Park Road.

The land remained as a Royal hunting forest for around 300 years.

In 1316 the land was offered to Whalley Abbey, in order that they build a monastery there. The offer was never taken up, however, and the land is recorded as being in the possession of Liverpool Castle in 1327, and in the hands of the Molyneux family by 1346.

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Early Modern Toxteth (16th Century – 18th Century)

The End of the Park and the Rise of Agriculture

At the end of the 16th century, actions were taken with the aim of dis-parking Toxteth. This would have allowed the locals to graze their animals on the land, a practise which already took place to some extent. Eventually, in 1604, Toxteth was indeed disparked by James I, although the bounding wall was still in existence as late as 1671. The disparking began the first major change in the landscape since the hunting forest was created in the 14th century. The conversion to arable and pasture land progressed rapidly.

Photograph of Toxteth Chapel, by Neil Evans via Wikipedia

Toxteth Chapel, by Neil Evans via Wikipedia

The 17th century saw a number of settlers being attracted to the area to take advantage of the new farmland, from both Liverpool itself and beyond. The land was broken up into farms, and one of the most notable communities moved into the area: the Puritans. They settled in the area around Otterspool, dubbing the stream the ‘Little Jordan’, and the area the ‘Holy Land’, a name which is still often used. The Puritans built the Ancient Chapel of Toxteth (right) in the 1610s, appointing the 15 year old Richard Mather as the master of the attached school in 1611, and preacher in 1618.

By 1800 there were four farms on land leased from Lord Molyneux: Jericho and the Three Sixes in Fulwood Park, Parr’s on Mill Street, and Rimmer’s in Dingle Lane. As exploitation of the old Park went on, this number increased and the landscape took on a much more agricultural appearance.

The Rise of Industry

Small scale industry was also a growing feature by the 17th Century.

Mather’s Dam was originally the site of a water mill on the east side of Warwick Street. This reservoir formed from a stream at the top of Upper Warwick Street, which ran across the road and down the slope to the River Mersey. The whole area here was laid out for houses once the stream ran dry in the 18th century, although the water remained standing for some years afterwards. The land between Warwick Street and Northill Street remained on a lease with the mill, but when this burned down in 1866, speculative builders moved in to develop the area.

Jackson’s Dam, sited on the shore line on what is now Sefton Street, occupied the area from the bottom of Warwick Street, across Northumberland Street. The complex included a tide mill and reservoirs. By the second half of the 18th century, industry had become the dominant feature of the landscape.

At the end of the 19th Century, the stream feeding the mill at Otterspool was beginning to run dry. Around 1772 Charles Roe leased land nearby from the Earl of Sefton and built a small copper works. At this time there were only a few scattered residences on the road from Liverpool to Aigburth. A year later Yates and Perry’s map shows seven large villas at the junction of Lodge Lane and Ullet Lane, as well as a large barn and a number of outbuildings associated with Lodge Farm. By the end of the decade requests were being made for a timber yard on Lord Sefton’s land, a sign of the future importance of the timber trade in this part of the city.

Even in the following decade the former Toxteth Park itself was still exclusively rural, although the creeping urbanisation in the north was catching up with the boundary. Even by 1775 Old Park Road, Smithdown Lane, Lodge Lane and the eastern extent of Ullet Road were the only streets in the area.

New Liverpool

In 1771 the farm of Thomas Turner was laid out for streets by the Earl of Sefton, and an Act of Parliament was obtained by the Earl for the granting out of building leases. This made it possible for a Liverpool-born builder, Cuthbert Bisbrown, who lived in Paradise Street to plan ‘New Liverpool’, a town to be built on Sefton’s lands to the south of the city.

This ambitious scheme was in competition with the cities of Bath and Edinburgh, which were both creating impressive Georgian landscapes at this time. The end result was the area known as Harrington, named after Isabella, the first Countess Sefton, and daughter of the 2nd Earl of Harrington. Unfortunately, finance at the time of the American War of Independence was scarce, and Bisbrown was bankrupt by February 1776.

Toxteth Terraces

The main streets created in the area were well built and wide, but Cuthbert’s plans never addressed the infilling of the area, which was packed with poorly built and dense blocks of dingy courts and back-to-backs. As many people as possible were crammed into the space, with no thought beyond the profit of the builders, and some of the buildings had walls of half a brick thickness.

Herculaneum ceramic, Apotheosis of George Washington (c.1800-1802), by cliff1066 via Flickr

In 1794 the land occupied by Charles Roe’s copper works was bought and converted into a pottery. In another two years this had become the Herculaneum Pottery Company of Worthington, Humble, Holland and others.

Although the pottery industry had declined in Liverpool at this time, the landscape around Toxteth provided water transport for the raw materials and products, as well as a market for the goods, and the factory did well. The surrounding district was developed to the advantage of the factory, including workshops surrounding the main site and a hamlet for the workers. The employees themselves were transported en masse from Staffordshire, well known for its expertise in the craft. The incomers were escorted into the area in November 1796, to the sound of band music and great celebration.

By 1811 there was still little further south than Northumberland Road, although the most rapid expansion in the wider region occurred in Toxteth Park, and Everton to the north, while other areas were losing population. The growing areas were Welsh heartlands in the city, attesting to the importance of this group to the growing Merseyside, and Toxteth was also becoming known as a ‘Sailortown’.

Industrial expansion kept pace with the development of Toxteth, and in 1810 the Mersey Forge was founded on Grafton Street, near flour mills standing further inland. The forge later expanded into the Mersey Steel and Iron Company, and stood near the present Toxteth docklands. Brooke and Owen’s brewery in Blair Street, only built in 1794, was dismantled in 1826 and the area covered with further terraces and courts.

The Toxteth docklands themselves were expanding in the area. Queen’s Dock was constructed in 1796. Brunswick in 1811 and Coburg Docks were built in 1840, both for the expanding timber trade. Toxteth, Harrington and Herculaneum Docks were built on or near the site of the former Herculaneum Pottery, which was dismantled in 1833. Also on the riverside were shipbuilding yards, and a ferry terminal. From 1825-35 ropewalks were established in Lodge Lane.

The timber trade was certainly beginning to dominate the area, with large timber yards along Grafton and Caryl Street. Up to 1823 few buildings could be found south of Hill Street, but the construction of Brunswick Dock (1830), changed all this. By 1835 buildings had spring up as far as Northumberland Street, with few gaps left. By the end of the next decade the street had been extended as far as Wellington Road, and Mill Street was also lined with buildings. Park Road south of the Peacock Tavern (1812), Chester Street (1815) and Windsor Street (1823) were all created in this period. The population was by now growing rapidly and more densely, fuelled by the expanding timber trade and dock expansion.

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Residential Expansion (18th – 19th Century)

New Roads and More Terraces

What Picton termed “pioneer cottages” had been built on the west side of Park Road by 1803; otherwise the area had consisted of green fields and stone walls.

Larger Georgian houses were built along Princess Road, Princess Avenue (the Boulevard) and the Georgian Quarter in Canning. Mill Street is first mentioned in the Directory of this year. Parliament Street, which got its name from an Act of Parliament granted to the Earl of Sefton for its laying out, had only four houses on it in 1790, and 21 residents. Up until 1807 the street terminated at a quarry on St. James Walk, where a windmill stood. In this year it was extended until it reached boundary with West Derby. However, growth in this area remained slow, and little more was built on it until the first years of the nineteenth century.

In 1822 the area of Windsor was laid out: the area enclosed by Parliament Street, Lodge Lane, Crown Street, and Upper Stanhope Street (now Beaumont Street) began to be developed. Lands west of this, known as the Parliament Fields and belonging to the Earl of Sefton, had demanded high prices and so avoided development as late as 1875.

Park Hill Road was opened up in 1824, and South Hill Road soon afterwards. In the beginning, these were lined with the large villas of wealthy residents, but later these were replaced with rows of smaller terraces. In 1826 Upper Stanhope Street, Upper Hill Street, Chester Street and Windsor Street were purchased from Lord Sefton by the Wesleyans, and laid out Wesley, Fletcher, Clarke and Newton Streets, and a Wesleyan Chapel was built in 1827. Park Street was laid out for houses in 1826, and John Hughes purchased yet more land from Lord Sefton, before laying it out for residential streets. Land between Princes Road and Warwick Street was first built on in 1830, and nearly covered as far as Upper Hill Street within twenty years. From Upper Hill Street to Upper Warwick Street followed between 1864 to 1868.

Population increase and Migration

During the 1840s dense housing communities expanded at an incredible rate. Back-to-back terraces accounted for 65-70% of the total housing in Liverpool in the 1840s. The population never increased by less than 60% in each census between 1801 and 1851: in 1844 Irish migrants arrived in great numbers, fleeing the Potato Famine, and the building of the Greek Church on the corner of Princes Road in 1870 attested to the growing importance of the Greek community in Liverpool.

Toxteth Becomes Part of Liverpool

This massive growth in Toxteth was by no means an unusual trend. Liverpool itself was expanding as a city, and the municipal boundary took in the northern portion of the Park in 1835, along with Kirkdale, Everton and parts of West Derby. In 1895 the remaining portion became part of the city. All in all the landscape of Toxteth’s slums reflected that of any maritime town of this time concerned with commerce.

Former industrial areas were soon also given over to residential areas. Between 1849 and 1865, land south of the Welsh Congregational Church (land bought by Hughes) was converted from quarries to terraces. In 1860, land adjacent to the Liverpool and Harrington Waterworks (built in 1846) was laid out for housing, although land was slow to be built upon here. The roads were appropriately named after rivers.

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19th Century Growth and Expansion

Photograph of Park Lane, Liverpool

Shops and trams on Park Lane, Liverpool, 1898

Toxteth continued to grow rapidly in the middle of the nineteenth century. Princes Road was laid out around 1846, soon after Princes Park, with Croxteth Road at around the same time. Green Heys Road was constructed in 1850, Grove Park commenced as a cul-de-sac in 1852, and Bentley Road appeared in 1862. Snowdon, Danube and Avon Street had appeared a year earlier. Northumberland and Park Street were built up around 1850, and Haslow Street in 1866 (then known as Egerton Street). The area from Park Street to Wellington Road was gradually built upon from 1850-70, close to one of the last windmills to stand in the area. To cope with the expanding population, 30 acres were set aside for Toxteth Cemetery in 1856, later enlarged to 40 acres.

However, not all the areas in Toxteth were crowding as fast as others. By 1875, from the bottom of Wellington Street and west of Grafton Street only ten cottages could be seen, and these the remnants of the Herculaneum Pottery hamlet. The area between South Hill Street and Dingle Lane were not yet built on densely: a scattering of large villas occupied the land, their gardens opening onto South Hill Grove, at the time a “verdant pasture”. The western part of this tract of land was in fact still occupied by the estate of Park Hill House. The house at this time lay on the boundary between Liverpool and Toxteth, between the rural and the commercial. Dingle was known to be “one of the most lovely bits of scenery in the neighbourhood”.

North Street (now Northill Street), High Park Street and South Street were only finally filling in by 1875 after standing empty for a time. Apart from a small number of good houses at the bottom of Upper Parliament Street, the area here was still vacant. In fact, towards the end of the nineteenth century, Toxteth, along with Everton and parts of West Derby, was losing population to other areas of Liverpool.

Parks

The cemetery was not the only open space in this part of the town. From 1864, over the next eight years, Liverpool Corporation created almost 500 acres of parkland for public use. Princes Park, laid out in 1843, was soon encircled by the large villas of the wealthy, first built on the east side. The Dingle was widened for the lake, and a red granite obelisk was erected to Richard Vaughan Yates, who had purchased the land for the park, in 1858. Otterspool was widened for the boating lakes in Sefton Park (created 1865) and Greenbank Park. Today the brook can be seen as it emerges from under Aigburth Road at the gates of Otterspool Park.

Transport

Transport became an issue for many cities in England while the inner city areas were growing with the Industrial Revolution. In 1869 the first horse-drawn tramway took passengers from the Dingle to Liverpool Town Hall. The Liverpool Overhead Railway had its southern terminus at Dingle. There were railway stations at St. James, St. Michael’s and Sefton Park.

A ferry had been proposed as early as 1775, at around the time Bisbrown was planning New Liverpool, and a tavern and landing stage were built. The tavern was known as the Tall House, due to its loftiness and isolation in this undeveloped part of the region. Unfortunately, the scheme was before its time, and was eventually abandoned. The ferry station was used as a ‘Ladies’ School’, later a tavern itself, and was demolished in 1844. In later years a ferry service began between the shore near the Tall House, taking passengers towards New Ferry.

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20th Century Slum Clearance

The rapid expansion of Liverpool took its toll on the urban landscape. In 1955 the Medical Officer of Health estimated that there were 88,000 unfit dwellings in the city (45% of the total housing stock). Ten years later little had been done to tackle the problem, and the number was still 78,000. 33,000 of these houses were in Toxteth, Abercromby and Everton, and a massive programme of slum clearance was initiated. Rows and rows of uniform terraces were demolished, and replaced with high and low rise flats, new houses and maisonettes. Many people moved or were forced away from the area. 42 square miles of Liverpool were affected by the clearances, and 88 action areas were identified across Toxteth, Abercromby, Everton and Kirkdale.

Photo taken from the top of the Anglican Cathedral, showing new housing and Toxteth in the distance

Modern housing aroudn the Anglican Cathedral replacing Victorian slums. Toxteth is in the distance

Other regeneration projects began in the post-War era. Otterspool promenade was opened to the public in July 1950, constructed of 30 million tonnes of landfill and upcast from the Queensway tunnel.

However, unemployment had been increasing in the area due to containerisation of the docks. Tension existed between the black community and the local police force, and following a similar period of civil unrest in Brixton earlier that year, the Toxteth Riots broke out in July 1981.

In the wake of the violence, the Merseyside Development Corporation was formed in 1981 challenged with building the Garden Festival site: “a test of the continental model as a vehicle for the investment in resources targeting inner city development”. A certain amount of optimism gripped those in Liverpool, but many were sceptical of the new developments. 180 new homes were built on the Garden Festival site, but the New Heartlands Project, a scheme set up to administer the urban regeneration, soon became a “euphemism for ripping the heart out of the city”.

Nevertheless, in the quarter century up to 2000 a strategy based on tourism, leisure, housing and tertiary sector employment meant that the landscape along the shore, and indeed inland, was altering in a way never seen in this part of the city since the massive expansion in terraces, parkland and factories in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries.

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Further Reading

Cover of the book The Transit of Venus, by Peter Aughton

Transit of Venus: The Brief, Brilliant Life of Jeremiah Horrocks, Father of British Astronomy by Peter Aughton

Many of the best resources for Toxteth history are the usual suspects:

  • Toxteth on Wikipedia – brings together the history with the politics, geography and regeneration of the area. Also includes a list of ‘Notable Residents’.
  • Township of Toxteth Park – part of the Victoria County History of Lancashire (1907) is available in full on the British History website.
  • The History of the Royal and Ancient Park of Toxteth – a reprint of a Victorian history from ‘ancient times’ up to about 1905. Enjoyable mostly for the romanticism of its approach to medieval history, and loose standards when declaring bits of old stone as ‘doubtless the remains of King John’s hunting lodge’.
  • The Transit of Venus (left) – a biography of Jeremiah Horrocks’s short life. Horrocks was the first to predict the transit of Venus across the Sun, and although little known, made great progress in the field of astronomy.
103 Comments Post a comment
  1. Derek Tunnington #

    Dear Toxteth, I resided in Toxteth from Apr. 1927 to 1933. Would you be interested in my memories of life during the Depression? If so, please contact me., but please bear with an old fogey! Regards, Derek Tunnington

    August 25, 2011
    • Wendy Lagden #

      Hi Derek,
      I’m currently looking into my family history, my Grandfather worked at the Gold Seal Knitting Mill in Woolton betwen 1922-1927. I’m trying to find out anything about the place but so far have had no luck what so ever. Do you remember it at all? Any info would be bonus!
      Kind Regards
      Wendy

      October 8, 2011
      • Martin #

        Hi Wendy,

        Thanks for your comment. I’ve forwarded it on to him hopefully he’ll be able to respond to you. If you’re a Facebook user you could also ask questions on the Historic Liverpool Facebook page.

        October 19, 2011
      • Derek Tunnington #

        Hi, Wendy, I’afraid my childhood in L’pool was after your Grandfather’s time, so I can’t help. Good luck’ anyway. I am also researching Family History, but find it difficult and expensive. Still great fun. Best wishes, Derek.

        October 20, 2011
    • Nick Darracott #

      Good morning Sir,

      My father George Darracott (Born 1912) lived in Ashcroft Street and his father was a Quay Carter on the docks.

      I would be very interested in your memories of the area you describe I am not sure how far you are from the area of the docks, Ashcroft Street etc but any information of the area in 1927 -33 would be very interesting.
      Many thanks

      Kind regards

      Nick

      September 29, 2012
      • ann hory #

        Looking for pictures of old Liverpool on this site.Your name caught my eye. My grandmother was a Darracot born in 1882.I grew up in Toxteth or Liverpool 8 as we called it. Have lived in canada for the past 40 yearsDarracot is an unusual name I am quite sure we are related even if only ways back. I would be interested in how we connect.Would love to hear from you.
        Ann

        October 23, 2012
        • Nick Darracott #

          Hello Ann,

          Profuse apologies for the delay in getting back to you,

          I only check this site occasionally (shame on me!) and can only apologise even more.

          I have relations in Canada, having said that, they were in contact in the 60’s, Harriman, Vanstone, etc.

          I have extensive Darracott family trees so maybe I could find your link somewhere.

          You can contact me by email nickdarr1@btinternet.com or just Google Nick Darracott Cornwall and you will find my website (Pest Control) http://www.kilex.co.uk

          Thank you very much for contacting me and I do hope we can share some information on the Liverpool you knew back then.

          I look forward to your reply.

          Kind regards

          Nick Darracott

          December 16, 2012
  2. Derek Tunnington #

    I sent you a comment. I may have had a computer glitch-I am unfamiliar with computer use. Did you receive? Regards, Derek Tunnington

    August 25, 2011
  3. Andrea Ku #

    Hi
    I am researching into the population numbers of Toxteth from around 1850 to the late 1980s. Can you help with this? I understand they would be rough estimatins but anything is better than nothing. I am working with Growing Granby on Kingsley Road and we are having local workshops starting with the history of the area. Regards
    Andrea

    November 17, 2011
  4. Sue #

    Can anyone help, have just discovered a large family of Davies and Prendergast from the late 1800 to mid 1900 living in the toxteth area. In particulare Liffey Street, Eden Street and Solway. It has been a complicate journey to find the parents of my grand parents Sara Davies and Richard William House. I would love to see where they lived, and maybe abit about thier lives……anyone, know anyone that can help

    December 24, 2011
    • Martin #

      Hi Sue,

      I’ve posted a link to your question on the Historic Liverpool Facebook page to see if anyone there can shed any light on the area.

      If you’re after maps, have you tried http://old-maps.co.uk? Type in the co-ords boxes: 336784 and 389190 respectively, and press go. Click on the small maps in the right hand column to choose your dates. The fourth one down (1891 Town Plan) gives good coverage and detail of your area. Click on the main map once to zoom in.

      For photographs, it might be best to try Googling for photos of Lodge Lane, as this is the closest main route to your area of interest. However, the Toxteth riots of 1981 mean there are a lot of images from that period. There’s one evocative image of children in Lodge Lane on the Echo website: http://bit.ly/yu4pVQ.

      Hope this info helps you get started.
      Regards,
      Martin

      January 12, 2012
  5. Denise Jones #

    Short course to be run by Liverpool Libraries and Liverpool University Continuing Education Department.
    Join us for a free* local history course
    A community without equal:
    the origins of Toxteth
    Have you ever considered studying history? Why not give it a go with this 6-week course which explores the history of Toxteth, from its medieval origins to its development as a vibrant community over the centuries that followed. Paul Booth, a Liverpool University historian, will lead friendly, informal sessions which may include optional field trips to examine the landscape of Toxteth itself and to see key documents in the archives.
    * Cost of fares for optional visit to Lancashire Record Office in Preston not included.
    When: 2-4pm, Wednesdays, Feb 22 – March 28
    Where: Toxteth Library, Windsor Street, L8
    All welcome!
    If you can, please register your intention to join us by calling into the Library in person or by telephoning 0151-233- 5428. If this is not possible, just come along to our first session. We look
    forward to meeting you.
    Continuing Education at the
    Centre for Lifelong Learning,
    University of Liverpool
    http://www.liv.ac.uk/conted
    Interesting fact
    Henry VIII ordered a deer to be sent from Toxteth to the earl of Devon (The document with the king’s signature on it is in Lancashire Record Office).

    February 4, 2012
  6. Denise Jones #

    Tracing your family tree course-Toxteth Library 2-5 Wednesday afternoons from 22/2/12
    Free to all

    February 4, 2012
  7. terry eagles #

    Anyone know time of visit to lodge house in Sefton Park tomorrow. 25/04/12
    as arranged by Paul Booth re History of Toxtethe

    April 24, 2012
    • Hi Terry,

      I’m not sure Paul Booth’s talks (Wednesday, 2-4pm) are still running. This page seems to suggest they finished at the end of March.

      I might be mistaken, so if there are other talks by him do let me know.

      Martin

      April 24, 2012
  8. Lucy #

    Hi,
    Would anyone happen to know where I might find some nice historic photos of Toxteth streets? Googling seems to get me nowhere so far! I’m looking to see where my Grandparents and Great Grandparents grew up – places like Windsor Street, Fletcher Street, South Chester/Chester Street, Clarke Street, Dexter Street, Warwick Street (they moved a heck of a lot!). I have no idea what kind of homes they might have lived in (slums or otherwise). The period 1890-1920 is of particular interest. Many thanks for any help you might be able to offer!
    Kind regards, Lucy

    June 30, 2012
    • Hi Lucy,

      There are a couple of maps on this site which cover the area, such as the Royal Atlas of England and Wales. That link takes you to the map centred around Windsor Street, with some of the other roads you mentioned visible nearby.

      As usual, I can also recommend http://www.old-maps.co.uk, where you can search for your road. It has a detailed (1:1056) Ordnance Survey map of the area, showing that the houses were terraces, but don’t look at all slum-like. They were modest, but perhaps the low end of middle class, perhaps upper end of working (so, clerks or other people in regular work).

      There are photos of Windsor Street from1962 here. They’re much later than you were looking for, I know, but as with much of Liverpool in the 1960s, shockingly little has changed so you get a good impression (cobbled streets and all!). Hope this gets you on your way.

      Regards,
      Martin

      July 4, 2012
    • ann hory #

      Lucy you are talking about the neighbourhood I grew up in. My mother ran a small shop so we knew practically everyone. What are your family names from that time? maybe I can help. Ann

      January 15, 2013
  9. Jayne Jones #

    Hello

    Can anyone help me with information about The Potteries area of Toxteth between 1851 – 1871. Researching my grandmothers family ” Booths” .

    Look forward to hearing from anyone.

    Thank you

    July 18, 2012
    • Hi Jayne,

      I’m guessing you’re referring to the site of the former ‘Herculaneum Pottery’, which was a factory where Ellerman Road now stands. This closed in 1841, and on the 1850 map the area is labelled with ‘Pottery Beach’ and ‘Pottery Shore’ which may be your Potteries.

      The Herculaneum Dock was built on the shore there in 1864, and the houses nearby (homes to many of the dockers working at Herculaneum) were small terraces.

      If you want to find out any more about the Pottery, then there’s no shortage of stuff online, plus this great book, The Herculaneum Pottery: Liverpool’s Forgotten Glory.

      Hope this is something to get you started, but in any case the Potteries were typical of much of Toxteth in the Victorian period.

      Regards,
      Martin

      July 23, 2012
  10. Joe McLoughlin #

    I require the name of the Threlfalls pub which was on the North East corner of the junction of Mann St. and Warwick St. Marnes shop was on the opposite corner and on the corner diagonally opposite was my grandmothers chip shop. Can anyone help?

    November 10, 2012
    • it was called The Star, I think

      March 25, 2014
      • Joe McLoughlin #

        Hi Nora Cole, thank you for your comment but the Star was further down, on the other side of the street, on the left hand side on the next block to my grandmothers chip shop

        August 4, 2014
  11. jimmy lloyd #

    I am looking for some pictures of kent gardens liverpool 1, and information when it was built, who built it, how many families lived there regards jimmy

    December 8, 2012
    • Hi Jimmy,

      Kent Gardens was one of the many schemes built across Liverpool in the 1930s to deal with the housing problem of the times. Sir Lancelot Keay was the Director of Housing, so you could say it was he who built them, as part of the Council’s schemes.

      I’m not sure about how many people lived there, but there’s a photo and a lot of memories on the Streets of Liverpool article about ‘How the 1970s changed Liverpool‘ (as this was when many of these housing schemes began to be demolished).

      December 25, 2012
    • ray greer #

      Dear Jimmy Lloyd enquirer, I am looking through the history of St.Malachys school with the hope of getting some information on a friend of mine. I am sorry to say that this enquiry is unrelated to your enquiry. Wether its coincidence I dont know but my mate Billy Ross who went to St.Malachys and my brother in law Raymond Hatton both knew a Jimmy Lloyd. In the 6os they all boxed together Jimmy at Carl gardens with Billy Ross and he worked with Raymond Hatton and sparred with him.I understand that our Jimmy Lloyd won a bronze medal in the olympics in 1964. He was married to a lady called Pat Kelly, is it possible that your Jimmy Lloyd is the same person regarding my enquiry. The reason for my interest is that my friend is 70 in June and we are trying to catch him out with a surprise this is your life thing. If you could help it would be great. regards Ray Greer.

      April 8, 2014
  12. Margaret McHale #

    I am doing my mothers family tree “Baker.” I have just been told by a family member there was a Baker cottage at Jericho farm at one time , also where there brick fields there at Jericho farm Aigberth Liverpool , it is now Otterspool I Believe , I am in Canada so any help would be great , thank you

    January 25, 2013
    • Hi Margaret,

      Lovely to see visitors to this site from all over the world!

      I’ve not been able to track down a Baker Cottage, but there were certainly a lot of small houses in the vicinity, not marked with a name on the maps I have. Similarly with the brick fields. There were a lot of small-scale quarrying activities all over the area, taking clay, stone or sand out of the ground for building. There may well have been some in the area of Jericho Farm, but again the pits marked on the map are not labelled.

      You’re correct, this area of Liverpool is now Otterspool – if you have any more specific info on the location you’re looking for then I’ll explore further! :)

      Regards,
      Martin

      January 27, 2013
  13. Hi Derek, I am trying to trace the Tunnington line on my mother’s side from Rose Rebecca. This is how far I have got, are you related to any of these & if so could you offer anymore family info? Thanks Megainsworth04@aol.com

    February 16, 2013
  14. Good afternoon

    i am currently looking into St Patricks school on Park Place, i believe there is a large theatre in there which i think would be great to reopen, do you happen to have any information on the building or photographs at all?

    thank you

    Craig

    March 4, 2013
    • Hi Craig,

      Unfortunately I’ve not been able to find any old photos of the building, and it doesn’t seem to be listed at all. Looking at old maps shows that the site was originally occupied by the Park Lane Brewery. It’s difficult to tell on the small scale of the maps, but the building, labelled as ‘Hall’ in 1908 and ‘Schools’ in 1927, may or may not have been rebuilt. In any case, it looks like the school was first on the site in the 1920s. If I come across any information on the theatre inside (or anyone else has info on it) then I’ll let you know.

      Martin

      March 17, 2013
      • @Liverpool1207 #

        Spoke with someone today who works in the building and there is a large theatre in the building but currently unused

        January 30, 2014
        • Thanks @Liverpool1207! Hopefully Craig will see this.

          Martin

          February 3, 2014
  15. Lyndel Helm #

    My great grandparents incl my grandmother (Simon family) left Liverpool about 1926 and emigrated to Sydney Australia. Their address in Toxteth Park on the 1911 census was 14 Marmion Terrace, Beresford Road. I believe they probably left because of high unemployment at the time but I would be interested in hearing from others who know what were some of the conditions of the time that caused families to leave Liverpool and what sort of area Toxteth Park was at the time and what area their address was – not knowing Liverpool the address is a little confusing. Thank you in advance.

    March 13, 2013
    • Hi Lyndel,

      Beresford Road still exists in Toxteth, and can be seen on Google Maps. Liverpool had a lot of problems associated with overcrowding and disease, especially in places like Toxteth and Kirkdale (the latter in the north of the city). Rather than unemployment, the problem was of casual employment.

      Men would go down to the docks every day, in the hopes that one of the dock masters would choose them for a day’s work. Those not chosen would earn nothing that day. If you were strong, tall and healthy-looking, you had more chance of work. If you didn’t fit this description, you might find it very difficult.

      It may be that your ancestors grew tired of the daily trials, and saved up for the passage Down Under. You’ll probably know better than me whether they found a better life in Sydney, though I suspect they did.

      Housing quality varied, but the terraces still standing in the area look fairly good. Many perfectly decent houses were demolished by over-zealous ‘slum’ clearance projects in the 20th century, so it was likely your family lived in better conditions than many.

      The ‘Marmion Terrace’ you mention was probably a name given to a row of houses on Beresford Road. It’s a fairly long street, and even today you can see short stretches of buildings given their own name to make finding them a bit easier. Unfortunately these names are not on the map. The area all around Beresford Road was terraced houses, and the famous (and still standing) Florence Institute was close by.

      Hope this gives you some extra detail for your research.

      Regards,
      Martin

      March 17, 2013
      • Lyndel Helm #

        Martin – thank you so much – that information is great. Yes they did have a good life in Sydney. Living at North Sydney with views of the Harbour when the bridge was being built would have been an interesting time. My grandmother met my grandfather (who was from Sunderland) – which I’m grateful for :-) My grandparents eventually owned their own home nearby and my great grandparents lived with them. Still some tough times but I think they were glad they came to Australia. Best wishes Lyndel

        April 11, 2013
        • Colin Holland #

          Marmion Terrace was a small street near the bottom of Beresford Road. Great views of the River Mersey around there. My Mum lived in the next street. It was quite a decent area for that time no court dwellings there. People had different reasons for emigrating like any move you think or hope that you will be better off in new surroundings. New places, new opportunities, new experiences… they’re always going to attract people.

          May 27, 2013
          • Hi Colin,

            So true what you say about migration. Good to hear your memories of Marmion Terrace too.

            Cheers,
            Martin

            May 28, 2013
          • Lyndel #

            Thanks Colin. Good to hear.

            April 6, 2014
        • Chris simon #

          Lyndel my family. Are named Simon they came from Marmion terrace

          October 13, 2013
          • Lyndel #

            Chris I’m sorry I should come back here more often. My great grandparents were Albert and Rosina Simon. My email is lyndelruth@optusnet.com.au if you would like to discuss further. Thank you.

            April 6, 2014
      • Maureen Wickham #

        Looking at the comments re: Marmion Terrace, Marmion Terrace was off Beresford Road and consisted on 15 terraced houses and 1 double fronted detached house – it is suspected that all houses originally belonged to Thorntons Woodyard. It was as I say a Terrace and no through road, all terraced houses faced Thorntons Stoneyard however the houses were there before the yard. Lockhard Street was behind Marmion Terrace and was joined by a set of step and a small passage which we referred to as an entry. They were on a photo taken in 1901 which was taken from the Corporation Chimney – and they looked old then.

        October 5, 2013
        • Lyndel #

          Thank you Maureen. I have a photo of my grandmother and her mother and an unknown woman which I think may have been taken there. My email is in a comment above if you would like to email me and I could send to you. Thanks for your information.

          April 6, 2014
  16. Fiona #

    Hi – I am researching the Leckie family tree and have a huge family living in Toxteth Park through turn of 1900. Apart from Toxteth Cemetry – is there anywhere else people could be buried from that end of the city. I have checked Springfield and Allerton – our family lived and used st silas, st cleopas and old St. Peter’s in church st. Did they have church yards?? Thanks for your help !!!

    March 31, 2013
    • Hi Fiona,

      There are burial records for St. Peter’s Church on the Lancashire Parish Clerks website. The same site, and map evidence, suggests there might not have been any burials at St. Cleopas. Looking at the map of St. Silas’s Church High Park Street, Toxteth, suggests there were no burials there either.

      Regards,
      Martin

      April 8, 2013
      • Maureen Wickham #

        Martin and Fiona, there was not cemetry around St. Cleopas I went to the Primary School – most funerals left the church for Alleton Cemetry. Liverpool list all occupants on graves in their cemetries is is quite a good site.

        October 5, 2013
    • try st james cemetary as some of my relations living in toxteth around 1890/1900 are buried there xxx

      September 15, 2013
  17. Ruth Thomas #

    As a child I lived in Roseberry St and my grandmother Emily Easthope lived in Mozart St Liverpool 8. I have been researching the family history for many years and I’m keen for any old photos of those 2 streets as on my last visit at the beginning of the year they had long gone.
    Thanks for any help.

    April 1, 2013
  18. Sue #

    Thankyou for your work. My father grew up in Litherland and has a long family history in the west derby area. I think it was his grandparents lived on Oriel road. He told me the tale of a railway line splitting the long street into two sections, with brick walls barely containing the passage of trains. His grandparents lived in the house next to one of the walls. I see Oriel Street is still there, as is the LimeKiln court they lived in. But I cant see any brick walls or railway lines going through it.. He is now 87 and I am finding a bit of time to help him record his memories – We live in New Zealand (he arrived here in 1951 so has been apart from his history for a while. We have the name Talbot in our tree and he thinks there may be a connection between two brothers gifted land at some stage.

    April 16, 2013
    • Hi Sue,

      Thanks for telling us about your father’s memories! Oriel Road used to be in the middle of a tangle of railway lines that took goods and passengers to the dockland areas of North Liverpool, so I’m not surprised that trains were such a landmark in the area. You can see some of the area on the Plan of South Liverpool, 1890 in square A4. Oriel Road is the street where you can just see ‘Road’ coming in from the top left.

      Martin

      April 17, 2013
  19. Caroline #

    Hi Martin,
    I am researching my family tree ‘McCartney’ from Liverpool (no not Paul). I have managed to obtain an address from my Grandfather’s military documents but have been unable to find it – 5 Sedan Street, Toxteth Park. I can’t find it on any map that I have looked at, yet can see lots of references to it in other historical records). I am just wondering if you have any idea of where it may be located.
    Many thanks, Caroline

    May 6, 2013
    • Hi Caroline,

      I’m as stumped as you! I’ve found lots of references on cemetery records and on discussion forums, but few clues as to where Sedan Street is! Putting the clues together, we might be able to tell a few things about the road. As people often lived close to their parents in the Victorian era (I know – not your grandfather’s time, but bear with me!), looking at those cemetery records would suggest that the road is somewhere around the north west of Princes Park, near Harlow Street. Also, looking at this record of a Thomas Brown who at one time lived in Sedan Street, and seeing that he moved in the 1960s to Kirkby, it can be suggested with some confidence that Sedan was demolished in the middle of the last century and the residents moved to new council estates. Although a lot of decent quality housing was demolished, the Princes Park area I mentioned has a lot of unmarked back lanes and streets, which would have had very small dwellings on them.

      I wonder if Sedan Street was amongst these unnamed roads here, or perhaps this group of roads a little further from Princes Park.

      Sorry I can’t be more helpful, but hopefully it gives an idea of the kind of place your grandfather lived in.

      Regards,
      Martin

      May 9, 2013
    • Hi Caroline,

      My partner, Sue, more of an expert on censuses and enumeration districts, found a census page which covers an area bounded “on the north by the middle of Upper Park Street and ?Waller Street, on the east by the middle of Windsor Street, on the south by the middle of North Hill Street and Harlow Street, and on the west by the middle of Mill Street.” (Census reference RG13/3432, Toxteth Park, 1903, ennumeration district 44).

      So I think Sedan Street is one of the group of unnamed roads off the south side of Rhyl Street. Hope this helps!

      Regards,
      Martin

      May 9, 2013
    • Colin Holland #

      Sedan Street was a little street off Harlow Street (the Park Road end of Harlow Street) between Beamish Street and Upper Essex Street.

      May 27, 2013
  20. Cathy Star #

    Hello! I have recently discovered that my great great grandmother was born in Toxteth in 1834. Her father was indeed a mariner and in one census he is a “dock gate keeper”. The surname was MARSHALL. Some of the family left for the USA, and my great great grandmother among them. She died in 1894 and is buried in Greenwood Cemetery in Brooklyn New York. Your site was most informative and I thank you!!

    May 15, 2013
  21. kenneth redfern #

    I was born and raised in Stanhope cottages Liverpool 8. I would be most pleased if any person could tell me if there are any pfotos available of the cottages. thank you in anticipation.

    August 8, 2013
    • Hi Kenneth,

      Thanks for your question. I’ve not found any photos of Stanhope Cottages myself, but perhaps someone on the Historic Liverpool Facebook page can help. They folks on there are usually a great source for photos.

      Regards,
      Martin

      August 21, 2013
  22. Jayne M #

    Hi,

    I’m trying to find any information about Cotter Street, Toxteth. My great grand parents lived there… Joseph and Mary Kelly (Kirkham)

    From what I can gather it isn’t there anymore and I’ve tried for months to find a picture. I checked a map posted fuher up this page and found the street (if the right one) is very small so even a longer shot than I first thought!! Any info or help would be brilliant.

    Thanks

    Jayne.

    August 9, 2013
  23. Sue Colley #

    Hi there
    I have given my dad a printout of this, not sure how much he has read but he has recounted an incident he witnessed at Potter’s Barn involving a plane shot down on 10th September 1939. Do you know of anything of it. I havent been able to find anything on the internet.
    Cheers
    Sue

    August 14, 2013
  24. Ron Jones #

    Am researching family history and find my great grandfather Nicholas William Baker moved to Liverpool in the early 1860’s from the village of Holt near Wrexham, where he was a farm servant. he lived in 81 Court, Upper Mann Street, Toxteth Park and married Mary Parker; he was employed as a Porter. Mary died of Enteric Fever on 5th May 1874 – they had three children – William born 1867, Mary born 1870 and Joseph born 1873 – shortly afterwards Nicholas Willam Baker moved back to Wrexham; in 181 only Joseph survives out of the three children….QUESTION….what was 81 Court like as a dwelling house; was enteric fever rife in the mid 1870’s; was a “Porter” likely to work on the docks; why would someone go from gentile countryside to what appeared urban deprivation; is anyone reasearching Mary Baker nee Parker….any information helpful…GREAT SITE & THANKS

    August 19, 2013
  25. Hello, friends, can anybody tell me was St Malachy,s RC Primary School only a “Primary school”. I am not too sure if it was also a secondary school.

    I have been tracing my father s education and there was no mention of his secondary school and assumed St Malachyes was from age 5- to 15. but unsure…

    thank you

    August 28, 2013
    • Hi Johnny,

      From what I can tell, St. Malachy’s was just a primary school. All references to it seem to only mention Primary.

      Regards,
      Martin

      September 1, 2013
      • HI Martin – yes many thanks – my father lived in Star Street L/8 – still cannot trace his secondary school ! – perhaps he never went back to school after St Malachy,s Primary – its very possible now that he never had a school secondary education.

        thank you for the note.

        regards
        Johnny

        September 9, 2013
        • Marie #

          Hi Johnny
          Re your query about your Dad’s schooling, St. Malachy’s was in Beaufort Street and also Robertson Street (Boys) Liverpool 8. My parents were educated there (1930’s/1940’s so now aged 80+) until the age of 15, but when I attended (1960’s now aged late 50’s) it was up to age 11, when boys went to the “new” secondary school St. George’s in Mill Street (and girls to St. Winefride’s in Park Street) now demolished. The other local secondary school was St. Martin’s which took children from St. Patrick’s Park Road. Hope this helps!

          Regards
          Marie

          March 12, 2014
      • Lorraine Edison #

        Before secondary schools were built a lot of schools like St Malachys educated their pupils until they were 14 or 15 years of age.

        January 5, 2014
  26. arthur robinson #

    i would luv to hear from anyone who lived around granby street,and went to granby street school,i lived at 104 roseberry street,

    October 9, 2013
  27. Gaynor #

    Hello can anyone help?. I am researching my family tree. Brooks. My grandfather was Frederick Slater Brooks born I think in 1886 in Toxteth. Apparently he was one of eight brothers – They grew up and lived in the same street. My grandfather married a Ginley in March 1920. All the brothers lived in the same street in Toxteth and apparently had a Vaudeville band (we do have a picture of that). My uncle Fred and my dad were also born in Toxteth in 1920 and 1922 respectively. I am trying to go further back to my great grandfather and also try to track some of my grandfathers family and try to understand Toxteth at that time. I’d like to find the street they lived on. Any ideas anyone? Thanks for your help.

    October 13, 2013
  28. Norma Rimington #

    Hi

    Just a note to say I have found this site fascinating!

    My mother was a Perry and my dad a Ward. We lived in Sefton Square, off High Park Street, in the 50s and 60s. Notable landmarks were: St Peter’s Methodist Church, the Town Hall (I think) which I recall as being the National Assistance Office, Toxteth Reservoir on the corner of Letitia Street, Mount Camel RC Church, Princes Park, the Gaumont picture house, Wellington Road Secondary Modern, the pub on Park Road opposite Wellington Road which locally was known as Knob ‘ill – I never knew it’s real name!

    I have a reasonably good knowledge and memories of the area so if I can help anyone else in filling in the odd blank, I’d be happy to try.

    Once again, love the site!

    October 17, 2013
    • Thanks, Norma! It’s always really nice to get comments from readers. Hope you keep on enjoying the site!

      Martin

      October 17, 2013
    • John Shaw #

      Hi Norma. I use to be a milk bot for billy allen who ran the dairy through the narrow door in the wall. I have been trying to trace a mate of mine Lenny Martin, he seem’s to of just disappeared of the face of the world Can you recall anything of his family all help would be great

      May 26, 2014
      • Norma Rimington #

        Hi John

        Sorry for the late reply but, like many others, I’m not a very regular internetter! I’m sorry I’m not able to help you with your mate but do hope that somebody else recognises the names you mention and helps you out.

        Good luck with the search.

        Norma Rimington (nee Ward)

        July 22, 2014
    • Alexandra Nuttall #

      Hi Norma, I am hoping you could help me with looking for family members related to this area. My email address is alexandranut@gmail.com

      I would be very grateful if you could contact me

      Alexandra

      August 9, 2014
  29. Andrew Carr #

    Hi Would you help me with my family tree please? My Great Grandad Robert Hogg, owned Jericho Lane Farm, by Toxteth, Liverpool
    My uncle Peter Hogg say there was a plaque about honor.. ? Do you have any traces of the Hogg family there?

    December 11, 2013
    • Hi Andrew,

      I’m afraid I’m not much of a family history expert; I know more about the built history of Liverpool. However, if anyone else reading this knows of the family history of the farm, then do add a comment below!

      Martin

      December 12, 2013
    • their was a dairy in brthnston road not sure if spelt right it ran parallel with aigburth road with the name of hogg up until 1984 when I left the area

      February 13, 2014
    • Susan #

      Hi Andrew,

      I am trying to find out about my grandmother who died when my mother was small and my mom has passed too and I have no info other than her name, Jean Hogg born April 10, 1892. Have been trying to track down family members on that side. She was from the Liverpool area as well. If you have any info or maybe if she may possibly be related, please let me know! Thanks! Susan
      htownprop@gmail.com

      April 28, 2014
    • Ann Robinson Ahlgren #

      Hi Andrew,
      Quite by chance I saw your letter here. I lived in the next street to Mr Hogg’s dairy. I lived in Rosslyn St and his dairy was in Alwyn St on the corner of Bryanston Road. When I was big enough to carry a jug I was sent to the dairy to fetch a pint or a quart of milk. I had to be careful not to spill it. There was often a cloth to put on the jug to keep any dirt out. The family was very pleasant. They remembered names and always smiled pleasantly. They had 2 children Angela and ? June. Angela had red hair!
      At the back of the shop there was a place for some cows which I think were brought from Jericho Lane to give milk on the spot so to say. Then they were replaced. When I went to school there was a kind of wall grid allowing one to see into the cow shed. I specially remember the smell from this and also the wonderful clean smell of the shop, which was mainly white and attractive.
      My mother took me to Jericho farm when I was little … it was close to the river Mersey. I do not know anything about a plaque however. It was fun to relive my memories! sincerely Ann Robinson Ahlgren

      June 2, 2014
  30. Lyndel Helm #

    Thank you Martin :-)

    April 6, 2014
  31. arthur robinson #

    hi all,i was born at 104 roseberry street,toxteth,and went to granby st secondary modern!!!,if any body remembers me!please contact me-scouse1952@hotmail.co.uk,it would be good to hear from you,i am in contact with barry madawee,so all wellcome.

    May 8, 2014
  32. I am editing the huge correspondence of the Withers/Drummond families (1839- 59), who were based in Everton and West Derby. Some members, however, also had connections with Toxteth, namely Grove Park and Devonshire Road in the 1850s.

    I would be delighted to hear from anyone with special knowledge of the social history of this part of Toxteth in the period specified.

    University of Liverpool

    June 23, 2014
  33. Melanie #

    My Grandma was born in toxteth in 1918 sadly she passed before I was born. Her name was Edith Sawyer she went to Windsor primary school off Windsor street. She moved to Northwood Kirkby in the late 50s early 60s. She married but not to my grandfather Agustive Shult from Scotland road. The family lived of south Hill Street before moving to Kirkby. my Grandma has sisters by the name of Reenie, Gladys & Marion & a brother William. My Auntie Gladys owned the nightclub the Gladray on upper parliament street in the 60s/70s. If anybody has any info please email on melanieshult@hotmail.co.uk.. my dad doesn’t like to talk family so if anyone can help me I would be much appreciated.. Thank you Mel xx

    July 14, 2014
  34. Dave O'Brien #

    Hi,
    I was a paper boy for Lenny Jones who had a newsagent on High Park Street., Liverpool 8. It was around 1961. I’m trying to find a picture of the shop and also of anybody who worked there at the same time. Cheers Dave OB

    August 4, 2014
  35. June Francis #

    Hi Martin,
    I’ve just read all the mails and your input on this site with great interest. I’m a Liverpool novelist and grew up in the West Derby Road area and now live near Crosby. Like many of the mailers I’ve spent some time tracing my family tree and discovered that a number of my Victorian ancestors settled in Toxteth as carters, builders, porters and mariners. Some brought their women with them and many married Liverpool lasses. I can relate with so many of those writing in, fascinating. I am planning on writing a book called And They Came To Liverpool about my own ancestry and family life growing up in the city and how it’s impinged on my writing, so really appreciate sites such as this one. Keep up the good work.

    August 26, 2014
    • Hi June,

      Thanks so much for your comments – it’s always nice to hear people enjoy the site! As a writer myself, I can empathise with how the city can be inspirational, especially the varied landscapes here – suburbia, city centre, Victorian slums and modern towers. I’d certainly be interested in reading a novel about Liverpool migration (though I’ve never had a look at the popular Helen Forrester novels), so good luck with that!

      Martin

      August 29, 2014
  36. My Thomas family moved from north Wales to the Toxteth area in the 1840s and then stayed put for almost the next hundred years. During the 1920s, my grandfather ran the Park Royal Hotel on the corner of Admiral Street and North Hill Street and I’ve created a Wikipage with a history of pub. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Park_Hotel,_Toxteth

    September 4, 2014
    • Hi Graham,

      That’s great! A lot of work’s gone into that article. Shame the history ends in demolition but it’s lucky you’ve got a good photo to illustrate it.

      Martin

      September 8, 2014
      • Many thanks Martin. The photo is from c1925. It’s one from an album I have but to date, I’ve been unable to find any others online.

        Graham

        September 19, 2014

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